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Jingle
11-18-2015, 03:36 PM
I know there are a couple of offerings out there such as the Sierra 85gr and the Speer 90gr and the 95gr vmax but the question is-

Does anyone make a smaller bullet for 6.5 like 70-75grs?

WayneShaw
11-21-2015, 08:56 AM
Berger made a small run of 85 grain FB 6.5 several years ago. Guess there wasn't any interest, they are gone.

Jingle
11-21-2015, 02:49 PM
Sierra makes an 85gr HP. I wish someone would make them down to 70-75gr to give the round a wider spectrum to what it already has..

WayneShaw
11-21-2015, 07:32 PM
The problem is short jackets, nobody makes them. Berger made a small run for the 85s, then quit. I know a fellow in OH that has dies, but can't find short jackets.

rickiesrevenge
11-21-2015, 11:59 PM
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3888164.0

Don't now what they weigh.

Aaron

Jingle
11-22-2015, 03:36 AM
Ricky, thanks a bunch, its a bit of direction..

I never considered the jacket being an issue.

MIBULLETS
11-22-2015, 06:28 PM
It only takes one extra die to pinch trim the jacket to your desired length. They may not be as thin at the mouth though. Depending on your use, you could expand a 6mm jacket while seating the core with the right punch. I've done that using 30 cal jackets for 8mm bullets. It works reasonably well and accuracy was faily good, but not match grade for sure.

Jingle
11-22-2015, 09:25 PM
Seeing as the lowest commercial 6.5 bullet is 85gr, how low do you think is possible?

6mm go from 55-107 so I wonder if its possible for 6.5 to go as low as 55gr or what determines the lowest grain bullet other than popular demand?

Also, if I was able to have custom 70 gr 6.5 bullets made how would you work a load up for it as there is nothing in the books?

Chickenthief
11-22-2015, 09:55 PM
What about a bump die and then use 25ACP bullets?

rickiesrevenge
11-22-2015, 10:17 PM
Seeing as the lowest commercial 6.5 bullet is 85gr, how low do you think is possible?

6mm go from 55-107 so I wonder if its possible for 6.5 to go as low as 55gr or what determines the lowest grain bullet other than popular demand?

Also, if I was able to have custom 70 gr 6.5 bullets made how would you work a load up for it as there is nothing in the books?

I don't know what limits they have for making the bullets. Probably the shape of the point and the need to have some bearing surface for the case to hold onto.

If you had a lighter bullet you could start with the data for the lightest bullet you can find. Work up from there. If you have data for 85's then 70's should have less pressure with the same charge.

Aaron

Jingle
11-23-2015, 12:04 AM
"If you had a lighter bullet you could start with the data for the lightest bullet you can find. Work up from there. If you have data for 85's then 70's should have less pressure with the same charge. "



Didn't realize this. I wonder if the lower in weight/grains you go the shorter, hence the jump to the lands become farther. The 85gr Sierra is .858, they sit in the case neck roughly .165 deep:eek:. OAL is 2.650. So if the bullet was made even shorter because of reduced weight then the ogive would be yet even farther from the lands hence why the selection is based at a certain weight from lightest to heaviest?

Does that make sense?

MIBULLETS
11-23-2015, 01:43 AM
6mm go from 55-107 so I wonder if its possible for 6.5 to go as low as 55gr or what determines the lowest grain bullet other than popular demand?

I would guess 70 - 75gr would be feasible with a normal ojive on the bullet, lighter than that you would need a bullet with more of a blunt or round nose so you have enough bearing surface as was stated by Aaron.

Jingle
11-23-2015, 02:13 AM
Yeah 70-75gr is what I want as I would just use my 22-250 beyond that.

john
11-23-2015, 06:05 AM
Norma used to make a target/training bullet at 80 grains. I've got a bunch of them from shooters clearing their shelves and some in factory Norma ammo. The factory stuff shoots accurately at 100m and was cheaper than factory brass. Might find some of those bullets lurking around if that is a small enough bullet (and they are quite short, and round nosed and full patch).

FilippoMo
12-01-2015, 01:02 PM
Try 6,5br.com
Filippo