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JoeZ
06-02-2008, 12:10 AM
Anybody got some good ones for a 20gr-25gr-30gr. Just looking for a burn rate and a charge to start with, I will do the rest. Think N-135, N-133, Benchmark maybe varget or N540?????

RicN
06-02-2008, 01:08 AM
Joe,
Have posted a few times myself on this question but little success as we don't have many javelina shooters, yet. Have decided to use one of my best M4 loads for start load and work up from there; Benchmark @ 18.6 grains with 25 vmax bullet. Fired one round in the shop, case formed out fine without issues looking slightly underpressured. Plan to take loading gear to range, load in 2-tenths increments while shooting over the chrono. Also will try Ramshot enterminator and perhaps 133 as I don't have 135. Po Ackley books show 4895, 3031 and 4198 as suggested powders but I'd like to use powders mentioned if proving out as they go through the harrel's measure so well.

drewh
06-02-2008, 03:05 AM
I have a .200 short .17 rem, so not exactly the same. I started out in the vicinity of 18.5 of h322, and 19 gr of benchmark with 7 1/2 primers and 25 gr v-max. I am starting over with annealed neck brass, and they are not ready to fire yet, but those should be a reasonable starting point.

Drew

JoeZ
06-02-2008, 05:24 AM
Ric I was going to start with 17Mach4 loads if all else failed. full mach4 loads should be pretty safe in a Jav. Evrything including a brand spanking new Luepold is sitting here. Lilja says I should have the barrel in a week. Got my fingers crossed. Hoping to be killing ground hogs the 1st week in July. My June deadline got pushed back. Getting itchy.

RicN
06-03-2008, 03:27 AM
It all takes time that's for sure. I waited 6 months from the time I ordered everything to getting the rifle complete. Looking forward to shooting this one.

Rook Rifle
06-29-2008, 08:34 PM
JoeZ the only loads I have were for 25gr bullets 15.3 of 4198 and 15.8 of 3031 sold the gun about eight years ago but it shot well with those loads

17 shooter
06-29-2008, 09:14 PM
Joez, In the Winter-2006 Issue of SCN, Patrick Cameron did a great article on the 17 Javelina....His load was 19.5 Grs. of H4895 behind the 25 Gr. Kindler Boat tail bullet with CCI BR 4 primers....In the Article, he mentioned that Kevin Gullette suggested H4895 so thats where he started. He had a number of very impressive groups using that powder/bullet combination...Hope that helps a little.....George

RicN
08-27-2008, 02:39 AM
An update to this thread concerning Javelina loads. -

So far, my new Lilja 3-groove barrel likes H-4895. To date, I haven't shot enough rounds to say; "this one will print sub .500 groups one after another" as I've only worked up the load to establish resonable velocities for use in the field without hammering the chamber with excess heat.
My target velocity is 3850 fps using the 25 grain vmax and or Berger 25 match.
Using H-4895, loads approched 20 grains before the barrel pressures up enough to reach target velocities. Excellent accuracy came at 19.8 and 19.9grains with 19.5 grains just as accurate but velocity is well under the target goal.
These loads are quite surprizing to me as I had thought less powder would meet my target velocity, however after checking and rechecking the chrongraph against known loads from other rifles I feel velocity readings are correct.

More later -

savagedude
08-28-2008, 01:07 AM
My javelina likes 17.2grs of h4198 with 25gr wcd bullets and rem 222 brass. Shoots very tight but same load in winchester 222 brass different outcome at target. Weighed the brass, win was heavier, so such a small case does makes a difference in pressure. Sako riimakkii action shilen barrel. New paint job and excellent scope.http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/savagedude2/javelina.jpg

GLWenzl
08-28-2008, 01:35 AM
Ric, X-terminator is absolutely great in the 17 Jav Imp that I shoot. Other powders (some but not all tried out by myself) in the Imp version N-133, H-322, H-335, Benchmark, & as mentioned 4198….

Also believe there might be info in SCN fall 1999 & spring 2000

17VLD
08-28-2008, 02:58 AM
I assume you have some N-540 to try since you mentioned it in the original post.In my rifle I worked up to 22.0 grns with a 27 Kindler bullet.The load works very nicely in wintertime coyote hunting forays.If you have some
I'd suggest you give it a try.Start with 21.0 and a good 25grn bullet and you should be fine.
Matt

RicN
08-28-2008, 04:53 AM
Thanks Gary; think I have those powders too. Actually I tried Exterminator with great results but having worked the load up rather heavy, I had some primer pockets open slightly at 19.7-8 grains with 3900 plus vel. Unfornunately it was my best accuracy, bug holes! I do plan on re-trying that powder, see if something puckers at lessor pressures and velocity because nothing goes through my Harrel like that stuff! First load dropped bounced right out of the pan rolling around on the floor! Exterminator also shoots very well in my 19 Rocketball case.
Interesting you found 133 to work well, I thought it to fast for the Javelina. What sort of load density are you getting with yours? not up to the neck I'd think. In Todd's 17 book, Keven shows N-135 but that powder is not available here.

Matt, thanks for your thoughts, wish I had 540 but no cigar! VV powders are not readily available here other than 130 and their pistol powders. I may have to order out of state, Powder Valley maybe.

RicN
08-28-2008, 05:00 AM
Hey Dude, what velocity are you getting with 4198 loads?

savagedude
08-28-2008, 11:15 AM
I don't have a chrony, I got the info from SCN spring 2000 issue should be running about 3700. It is my next purchase to get a chrony, but had to get a 204 ruger in savage single shot action that I just had to get.

17VLD
08-29-2008, 02:25 AM
Ric when I bought most of my supply of V-V powders Midsouth of Tenn
was having a heck of a sale.I am not sure what I will do as I'm running low
on a lot of my fav's.I hear PV is a good outfit to deal with though.
Matt

RicN
08-29-2008, 03:32 AM
Thanks Matt; I bought a few items from them with good success in the past, like primers, brass and bullets even. My issue is, learning to buy powder on-line and pay this hazmat cost plus shipping fees. Up until recently we had several places here to buy powders over the counter but they are quickly dissapearing. We do have a very large powder sales company to the north but gas/diesel prices being what they are, hazmat and shipping are about equal to driving costs for many.

Today, and still using 4895, the Javelina using 25vm bullets and 19.7 grains went .336 for 4 shots- being my first 3-groove barrel I now wonder if pressure builds slower in these than the 6 groove ? Sure like this rifle/barrel/case combo; could become a guys favorite real easy.

savagedude
01-23-2009, 11:48 PM
Bought a chrony, my javalina loads 3830fps with 17.2grs h4198 and 25gr wcd bullets. Also with my 204 ruger I am getting 3920 with 40 gr vmaxs loaded with varget.