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redrock ranger
02-26-2009, 07:53 PM
Would the Savage experts answer this question for me . Is the Long Range Precision action ,single shot made in one length ,the only difference being the bolt head ? Thanks.

trotterlg
02-26-2009, 11:45 PM
No, there are a lot of different actions, left port right bolt, right port right bolt, left load port right eject port right bolt, could be some others also. Larry

redrock ranger
02-27-2009, 12:15 AM
It is a right bolt ,left port target action. The new one .

trotterlg
02-27-2009, 02:14 AM
To change form a .308 bolt head to a .223 bolt head will only take a bolt head change. Larry

RickC
02-27-2009, 02:34 AM
I believe it is made in "short action" only.

trotterlg
02-27-2009, 02:42 AM
It will be a .308 length action, for the .223 you would probably put an extended front baffel on to limit the bolt travel but is not needed. You could probably shoot some fairly long cartridges in a short Savage action, and even longer if you didn't mind taking the bolt out to eject an unfired round. Larry

bushmaster
02-28-2009, 06:26 AM
It's only made in short action.

BM

Crooked Creek
03-02-2009, 12:16 AM
The target action is the short variety. The port is fairly small compared to the hunting or varmint Savage actions. I have a right bolt/left port that I could photo, with a ruler along side, if that would help anyone with the question posed, just let me know. I can also put a 308 and 223 round in the photo for reference if that would give a needed perspective (?).

Artpro
03-03-2009, 12:56 AM
Hi Y'all. Don't mean to hijack this thread, but what are the physical dimensions and bolt spacing of the target action? I've posted this on Savage.com, but haven't had any feedback.
Thanks,
Art

Crooked Creek
03-03-2009, 02:15 PM
Dimensions taken from my action and paperwork that came with it:
O.A.L. = 8 13/32" ; Diameter = 1.350" ; Three bolt holes - 2.200" centers, with first
one .800" from face of action ; Loading port length - 3.400", width - .640"
Receiver/Barrel thread = 1 1/8 - 20 UN - 3A ; Turned barrel diameter = 1.110" - 1.115"
with barrel thread length = 1.375" - 1.395" when using Savage barrel nut method.
Ground recoil lug = .250" thick, .374" protrusion below action.
Hope this helps.

Jay T.
03-03-2009, 10:19 PM
Are there after market stocks available for this action? Or can a stock inletted for a sa Savage be modified to work?

Jay T.

Crooked Creek
03-04-2009, 12:05 AM
If you are asking: "are there after market 'pre-inletted, drop in' stocks available" ?, I have not yet found one. I have not even seen anyone (including Savage) selling the various Savage factory stocks that fit it. All those out there for the so called "110 series" actions (smaller diameter) will not work. Obviously, if you are up for inletting and pillar bedding or machining your own bedding block arrangement, you can use anything out there from any manufacturer that will accept the 1.350" diameter action. On that subject, take note that none of the "pre-chambered/pre-fitted" barrels out there (so far, anyway) will work with the larger barrel thread size of this action, they will simply "slip right in" and not even touch the threads, let alone screw in. I know....I tried, and now I have to start from scratch with a barrel blank. And, if you are going to use the Savage barrel nut, you have to have a barrel diameter of 1.110" - 1.115" to start with. Or, you can forgo the barrel nut and start with a larger diameter blank and fit it as you would a Remington (or others) and screw the shoulder of the barrel against the recoil lug. If anyone else has found a source for aftemarket (including Savage's own) pre-fitted barrels or pre-inletted stocks, please speak up. My information may well be out of date, or I have be looking in the wrong places ! Also, on the subject of switching bolt heads, remember that the extractor and ejector pins locations within the bolt head are "port specific".

Gary in Illinois
03-04-2009, 12:16 AM
On that subject, take note that none of the "pre-chambered/pre-fitted" barrels out there (so far, anyway) will work with the larger barrel thread size of this action, they will simply "slip right in" and not even touch the threads, let alone screw in. I know....I tried, and now I have to start from scratch with a barrel blank. And, if you are going to use the Savage barrel nut, you have to have a barrel diameter of 1.110" - 1.115" to start with. Or, you can forgo the barrel nut and start with a larger diameter blank and fit it as you would a Remington (or others) and screw the shoulder of the barrel against the recoil lug. If anyone else has found a source for aftemarket (including Savage's own) pre-fitted barrels or pre-inletted stocks, please speak up. My information may well be out of date, or I have be looking in the wrong places ! Also, on the subject of switching bolt heads, remember that the extractor and ejector pins locations within the bolt head are "port specific".

I am not sure which model you refer to in the above statement. If it is the Long Range Precision Varminter, there are several pre-fit barrel options. I purchased two from Shilen last year (1 in 17PPC and 1 in 20PPC). I believe that PacNor also offers pre-fit barrels for this action. You just have to be certain that you specify the barrels for the LRPV action.

If I have the wrong model in mind, then disregard the above information!!

Good luck,
Gary

casts_by_fly
03-04-2009, 07:46 PM
crooked,

Most of the savage drop in barrel manufacturers do one for the large shank actions. The large shank actions (target and some 'normal' series) are used for the target actions as well as the WSM's and RUM's. Northland shooting supply stocks a bunch of them in various chambers from both McGowan and shilen. He also stocks various factory barrels as well.

http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php?topic=14194.0

I'm pretty sure a bunch of other manufacturers also do the large shank barrels, you jsut have to specify. Midway and others don't normally stock them.

The standard barrel nut is too small, but if you start with a new factory action or factory rifle with a large shank it will come with a large shank nut.

Thanks,
Rick

Crooked Creek
03-05-2009, 01:32 PM
Thanks Gary and Casts By Fly for the info and pointing in the right direction. My action is new, with the proper barrel nut (the only thing Savage does not package with the sale of the "complete" action is the three action screw, go figure). I visited the link provided by Casts and found a lot of good conversation has been had over the past couple of years. There seems to be a common thread that raises a question, and that is one of availability. The lists seem pretty comprehensive, as far as options and offerings, but a very high percentage of "SOLD OUT" notations on the list. What has been the typical lead time from "want and order" to actual delivery ? If it is lengthy, it may be a better solution to just start with a blank, rent (or buy) a reamer and do it yourself if you have access to a lathe. It does not appear that there is a big savings buying a [quality] pre-fit, but rather a big convenience if you don't have access to machinery. As far as switch barrel capability, turning the barrel with a shoulder and tightening against the recoil lug and simply returning to a witness mark seems as easy as using the barrel nut and establishing headspace with gages or "fitted cases". And, you can do the switching at the range with a barrel vise and action wrench without removing the scope or barreled action from the stock. Don't get me wrong, I have always liked the Savage barrel nut arrangement (and I have two of the barrel nut wrenches), but it seems the biggest advantage is from a manufacturer's (Savage) production time perspective and then to those in the aftermarket that [again] do not have access to the proper machinery. I'm scratching my head over this, so please tell me what I'm missing here.

Gary in Illinois
03-05-2009, 02:23 PM
I purchased two Shilen barrels through this wholesaler:
http://www.thebarrelman.com/

The savings are significant but you still have to wait on Shilen. I don't know what Shilen's current production time is but a call could tell you. When I ordered through the BarrelMan, I sent him the order and paid him. The barrels were shipped directly from Shilen. The lead time when I ordered was 8 - 12 weeks. One arrived early and one arrived late.

Good luck,
Gary

redrock ranger
03-05-2009, 09:17 PM
A wealth of information can be obtained from the Stockade stocks website on Savage projects .

trevort
03-26-2009, 05:50 AM
Are there after market stocks available for this action? Or can a stock inletted for a sa Savage be modified to work?

Jay T.

I'm using one to build a comp rifle for 1000yd br and 500m fly and Mr Shehane inlets for them. I'm going to have a nice refined understated PATRIOT:eek: patterned ST1000!!!

vlcakc
03-28-2009, 04:46 AM
My Savage Target action in 6X47 Lapua has a PacNor pre-fit barrel and Sharpshooter Supply benchrest style stock. The stock came pillar bedded and required very minor sanding before finishing. Inletting was very clean and required no fitting. In fact I could have finished the stock without any sanding, but old habits are hard to break. It is away being fitted with a Kreiger 8 twist barrel in 22X47 Lapua. Should be ready in a couple of weeks. (The Kreiger was NOT a pre-fit.) Vic

redrock ranger
03-28-2009, 09:08 PM
What barrel contour does the Sharpshooter stocks come in ? I'd like to use a heavy varmint contour .

I see the Bell and Carlson Medalist tactical come in the 4 3/8" spacing but can you use two hole and plug the middle one ? Is there enough strength to hold the action securely ? It has a blind magazine . Thanks