ramos-- a friend of mine that is a rabid, and I mean rabid fur guy. traps hunts, calls, interned for two winters on reed lake Manitoba with noted trapper Corky Peterson. friend tho had a cooper 223 that went to shooting nuts. he sent it in. it was a single shot I believe. he had an elastic cartridge/shell holder glued to the stock. man this guy uses his equip. they sent the rifle back with a nasty note bitching about the 'looks' it had acquired. of course some of us hold grudges longer than others. our troubles were before dan cooper was removed from his own company. friend now uses a Kimber. loves it. I don't think coopers have the 'ruggedness' needed for tough times in the hunt. my .02 -hoppy
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