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17 Remington Fireball vs 17 Hornady Hornet
Would it be possible hear ideas regarding the advantages and disadvantages of the 17 Remington Fireball vs 17 Hornady Hornet? Will SAKO ever chamber one or the other?
Last edited by mackillan; 11-18-2011 at 01:09 PM. |
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Get both....
That way you have all the Advantages...&...none of the disadvantages!
Seriously though, I have both (Since I don't have a 17HH, but do have a 17AH......), my advice would be to do the 17HH and a 17 Remington. That way, you have both ends of the spectrum! The 17AH is a round (so is the 19 Calhoon & probably others on the Hornet case, incl. the 17HH) that defies its own credentials! It performs far greater than one might expect, when compared to other small cals-AT least that is how it seems to me! If you choose to do only one, certainly do the 17HH (or, 17AH)! Go ahead and amaze yourself right off the bat! If you visit James Calhoon's web site, the photo of Jim's buddy, Fred (recently passed) shows him with the exact expression one gets from the action of a Hornet Wildcat!!! Lots of good info on that site, too! Bill Last edited by william t. oviatt; 11-18-2011 at 06:00 AM. |
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It's more a question of "Will Beretta import them?" Not sure about the 221 Fireball or the 17 version but know for a fact that Sako still chambers for the 22 Hornet & sells them in Europe. Beretta has determine that the market here doesn't support importing them. Maybe if there is big success with the new 17 Hornady Hornet the nit wits at Beretta will wake up from their ignorant stupor & we will be able to get Hornet based Sako actions. I can only dream about it now or place a $10,000 minimum order @ wait 6 to 12 months for delivery if you can find a dealer willing to do it.
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Bill is right!...Get Both!......I got a new Sako in 17 Remington in 1994...and I got 3 new Tikka heavy varmints in 17 Remington in 2003....the Tikkas shoot wonderfully....the Sako about 1 1/2" at 100 at best....
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[quote=LT17;119460]Do you have any evidence to back that statement up?
LT17: Have a friend in the wholesale/retail gun business who was at the Riihamaki plant last fall. As a big buyer he got the royal tour including an Elk (moose) hunt. Told me he saw 100's of Sako Hornets stacked up waiting for shipment. The Hornet is still very popular in Europe. You will find that certain twist rate barrels from Sako are no longer available here as well, but are overseas. Beretta has been a huge disappointment for Sako & Sako fans & my friend was told by the people in Finland that they very much regret selling to them. You will also notice that certain model rifles like the 85 Bavarian are not imported either. I think most Americans don't know how bad Beretta really is in understanding our market & especially how they market Sako. |
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Sako Hornet
What was the platform for the Hornet your buddy saw? I can definitely see Europe being a market for the Hornet but usually some of those will trickle over here, people do buy firearms over in Europe and bring them back to the states, especially military. I've never even seen a pic of one much less heard of someone that has one. Would be nice to score a Hornet on the 75/85 platform. Seems you would be able to go online at a retailer in Europe and see one if they are available. All of my searches for Sako European chamberings show they didn't chamber it after the L46, for the home market or export.
Last edited by Chuck Miller; 11-19-2011 at 05:41 PM. |
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Sorry Hawkeye but I think this claim about Sako's manufacturing Hornet's is a figment of your friends imagination. Maybe they make a special limited run for a group of dealers, but I think it unlikely. I have never heard of them in England.
As far as the models Beretta import that is true to a degree. In Canada for example the importers Stoeger only import (afaik) the Bavarian in 7mm Rem mag, 30-06, 300wsm and 300 win mag. The reason for this is these are the calibres that will sell. However if a person wanted a particular Sako I am sure these people could assist http://www.gun.co.uk/ ultimately though if the Hornet was available I would have thought Sako might advertise it on their website and they don't. So until I see concrete proof I remain deeply sceptical. |
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answer?
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Yea,,,, Like you never stray off topic.
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