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Old 10-30-2014, 05:45 PM
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Default parent case for 17 Rem

I have read many articles claiming that the 17 Rem was developed from the 223 by pushing the shoulder back and retaining a longer neck. I have also read threads where people talk about forming 17 Rem from 223 brass and ending up with brass a bit too short.
I would assume then, that it was the 222 Rem mag brass that the 17 Rem derides from?
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Old 10-30-2014, 06:29 PM
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I have read many articles claiming that the 17 Rem was developed from the 223 by pushing the shoulder back and retaining a longer neck. I have also read threads where people talk about forming 17 Rem from 223 brass and ending up with brass a bit too short.
I would assume then, that it was the 222 Rem mag brass that the 17 Rem derides from?
Believe the .223 is the parent case for the Remington version. Those that come up with a short case, is probably due to die adjustment off. Bill K
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Old 10-30-2014, 06:31 PM
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Yes my understanding is that it was the 222 mag it was derived from. People try to make them out of 223 because 222 rem mag is hard to find. There is an old cartridge the 17-223 but it is different then the 17 rem
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:04 PM
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The parent case for the 17 Rem was the 222 mag. You can make it out of 223 but as mentioned it will be short.
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Old 10-30-2014, 08:37 PM
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The parent case for the 17 Rem was the 222 mag. You can make it out of 223 but as mentioned it will be short.

This^^^....
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Old 10-30-2014, 09:39 PM
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The parent case for the 17 Rem was the 222 mag. You can make it out of 223 but as mentioned it will be short.
Yes.........This^^^^^ like Chuck and Dooger said......

If you use 223 Rem brass, the resulting cases will be about 0.040" short in the neck.

One thing I like about the 17 Rem case is the relatively long case neck. In addition, for me, 0.040" shorter in an already long chamber is too much for my liking. YMMV...

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Old 10-30-2014, 11:27 PM
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I thought the 204 ruger parent case is the 222 mag. And the 17 rem parent case is the standard 222rem.
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:32 PM
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I thought the 204 ruger parent case is the 222 mag. And the 17 rem parent case is the standard 222rem.
222 Rem would be way to short. 204 R was based on the 222 Mag case however. Bill K
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Old 10-31-2014, 12:01 AM
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Default 17 rem

17 rem is from the 222mag. The length of the 223 is shorter than the 17 rem even before necking down. I have had all three and tried necking down a couple of 223 to 17 rem did not use them due to being too short for my liking. I have not had a 204 but when 17 rem brass was not available I looked at them to form 17 rem but I could not find 204 brass either. I believe the length of the 204 is the same or very close to the 17 rem.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:01 AM
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I should have proof read my reply. 204 ruger from 222 mag. 17rem from 223 rem. 1971 "17rem based on 223 rem" remington advertising. Order of development 222rem,222 rem mag,222mag discontinued,223rem,17rem.
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