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The 17 FB has a 75 to 100yd advantage over the 17 Hornet.
You can get into loading for a couple calibers pretty cheap. You'll like it. Welcome Kenny
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Welcome!
If you could get the 17FB cheap, less than $600 with scope, try it. You may be surprised. You could always replace the barrel with a new one if it's bad. That said, I got the first 17 FB that came in the shop. I have none of the issues reported with brass and the sporter barrel shoots under 1/2". It even shot under an inch at 300 at one of the Saubier shoots. Must have had a sharp, new reamer. IF the barrel turns out to be a turd, you have the perfect opportunity to go 20 Vartarg (221 FB necked down to 20) to give you the option of heavier bullets and more stopping power for coyotes. Charlie |
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As far as scopes being sold with rifles, that just creates more work and unless I can peddle it AS IS on ebay or one of the forums, I would not buy a rifle with one included. You don't know if it has ring marks, if the rings were tightened to the proper torque, if it was dropped, turrets turned past their stops, banged or otherwise mistreated. Mostly it's just a way to unload a scope they didn't want or didn't like. Hope this helps! Edit: The Hawkes are Chinese if that makes any difference. http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx...s=.17+fireball Last edited by Hog Patrol; 11-19-2015 at 03:16 PM. |
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Hawke Scope
I have experience with Hawke scopes. The lower price point one had to be returned due to clarity issues. They are commonly use for air gun shooting out to 100 yds. They are not really clear at distance. IMO for shooting out to 300 yds, get another scope. When you check the retail prices you will see that they are not going to compete with other well known scope manufacturers.
However, their customer service is incredible and personal. I would equate it with Vortex or Leupold. Chuck Last edited by charlesasmith; 11-19-2015 at 03:01 PM. |
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FWIW - the SPS Varmints have tupperware stocks and sold new for $499 or so. For them to be going for $1000 now is beyond ridiculous. You can build a custom for that using better parts...which may be the better option, overall. It IS a fantastic caliber. Agree with the Chinese (junk) scopes. If he paid $450, he got ripped off.
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Wow, lots of great responses. I feel the caliber itself is ideal for my uses, which will be primarily fox. The previous owner used it for this purpose as well and had a good deal of success with the rifle. I will be trading an AR-15 for it, not purchasing it outright. I do personally plan to get into reloading but would prefer to be mentored by someone with years of experience. My friend doesnt really have time for this as we both live a good distance from each other. I may pass on this rifle as i am really enjoying the CZ .17Hornet with factoey Hornday ammo. What do you gentlemen feel the max yardage of the Hornet is?
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I bought a very early sporter weight 17 Fireball in the 700 SPS format when they first hit the market. The rifle I bought has had one modification to it; it's now residing in an H-S Precision sporter weight stock just because I like the H-S stocks for a carry rifle.
Mine has shot both factory ammunition and my hand loads using the fired brass extremely well. I have no complaints as far as tomato stakes go. The barrel cleans up easily and I find it to be no different from the three 700 Remingtons I own in 17 Remington which are also all very good shooters. I'll add that the rifle shot extremely well with the plastic Remington stock on it also. I guess you can count me as the sole owner of a good factory sporter weight Remington 700 in 17 Fireball....... I also own a CZ and a Ruger in 17 Hornet, and both rifles shoot well. If you're gong to do much coyote hunting, I'd pick the 17 Fireball or even something in a bigger 17 cartridge. For smaller game the 17 Fireball will probably work 100% of the time. -BCB
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see post #12 above...you are NOT the only one.
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