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Old 07-11-2022, 03:36 AM
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My Hornets just plain don't like this powder, but with powder on hand I decided to give it a try in my CZ 527 American in 221 Fireball. As I worked up to the listed Hodgdon listed maximum of 16.0 gr. with a 40 grain bullet, the accuracy started getting better and better, and the 15.5 and 16.0 gr. loads delivered 1/2 MOA accuracy. I went home and loaded up more ammo for a return trip to the range, this time with my chronograph. The accuracy was for real and the 40 gr. bullets were clipping across the screens at 3616 fps! A stunning 300 fps faster than the Hodgdon load data.

Anyone else tried Lil'Gun in their 221 Fireball?
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Old 07-11-2022, 07:28 AM
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those of us that have used lilgun have known that for years, a well kept secret.
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Old 07-11-2022, 02:19 PM
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It works fine, but watch your loads, if worked up in cool weather and used in hot weather (temps) it can suddenly give some real high pressure jumps.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:31 PM
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Old 07-11-2022, 10:59 PM
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Will do. If 15.75 gr. shoots as well as the 16.0, the simulated peak pressure is only 43k, so that should give me some pressure margin on a hot day.
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Old 07-11-2022, 11:42 PM
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I stuck with 15.6 with a 40gr Berger. No need to chance it with temp instability or loader error.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:49 AM
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What brand of brass? I only ask, because I was told the Nosler .17 FB brass held 2 grains less than the Remington.
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Old 07-13-2022, 03:00 AM
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What brand of brass? I only ask, because I was told the Nosler .17 FB brass held 2 grains less than the Remington.
I use Lapua.
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Old 07-16-2022, 10:20 AM
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I shot a ton of Lil'Gun in my 221s. All very close to 16 grains with 40 grain Vmax. Never saw a pressure problem, great accuracy and way more speed than any other load I tried. If you down load that powder you can see wonky pressures, but load it at book min or above and I have never had a problem. Used it in the 221, 22H and 17H, thousands apon thousands of rounds shooting gophers.
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Old 07-21-2022, 02:04 PM
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I use Lil Gun in my 22 Hornets, 221 Fireball and 25-20 Winchester. It works very well, see no reason to change.
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