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Old 08-21-2022, 08:02 PM
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Default Quickload help? 22 Lovell?

I was wondering if anyone could post quickload results for a 22 Lovell using some of the new powders?

Thanks.
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:05 PM
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I was wondering if anyone could post quickload results for a 22 Lovell using some of the new powders?
I'd be happy to help but I want to make sure we're talking about the same Lovell cartridge because QL has two different versions listed.

There's a "22-3000 Lovell" and a "22 R Lovell" with the latter of the two having a slightly shorter case length but slight increase in case capacity which makes me think the 22 R Lovell is likely some sort of "improved" shoulder angle variation.

Which version do you have and what bullet/s do you want me to run the numbers with?
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:17 AM
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I'd be happy to help but I want to make sure we're talking about the same Lovell cartridge because QL has two different versions listed.

There's a "22-3000 Lovell" and a "22 R Lovell" with the latter of the two having a slightly shorter case length but slight increase in case capacity which makes me think the 22 R Lovell is likely some sort of "improved" shoulder angle variation.

Which version do you have and what bullet/s do you want me to run the numbers with?
If they have the 22-3000 Lovell, that would be a great starting point for me.

Anything with a 40, 45, 50 gr bullet.
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Old 08-22-2022, 03:46 PM
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Here's the QL info on a 22-3000 Lovell with 40 Sierra BK's. The listed max pressure in QL is only 40K.

Cartridge : .22/3000 Lovell
Bullet : .224, 40, Sierra Blitzking 1440
Useable Case Capaci: 17.012 grain H2O = 1.105 cm
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.120 inch = 53.85 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 40000 psi

Maximum filling of 106 %

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Case Fill % _(Grains) _(FPS) _(Burn%) _(PSI)

Vihtavuori N125 105.7 15.4 3149 95.6 40000

Hodgdon H4227 101.4 14.6 3095 93.3 40000

Alliant Reloder-7 106.0 16.1 3054 88.4 38179

Accurate 1680 97.3 15.9 3035 84.5 40000

Hodgdon H4198 106.0 15.6 2975 82.0 39751

Vihtavuori N120 106.0 15.2 2971 92.8 33383

Hodgdon CFE BLK 104.2 17.3 2915 75.8 40000

Hodgdon H335 106.0 18.1 2893 75.5 34776

Alliant Reloder-10x 106.0 15.7 2833 81.5 28789

Vihtavuori N130 106.0 15.5 2740 80.7 28423

Hodgdon H322 106.0 16.1 2728 73.3 28937

Alliant Reloder-12 106.0 16.9 2724 74.4 29544

Ramshot X-Terminator 106.0 17.7 2701 67.0 30726

Hodgdon Benchmark 106.0 16.4 2692 71.0 29539

Accurate 2230 106.0 18.0 2690 67.2 29956

Vihtavuori N530 106.0 16.7 2681 67.6 28715

Accurate 2015 106.0 15.9 2680 77.0 25410

Winchester 748 106.0 17.9 2674 66.0 29290

Accurate 2460 106.0 17.9 2674 68.9 27260
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Old 08-22-2022, 04:05 PM
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Tack---What rifle is your 22-3000?? Too bad Jamison still isn't in business. They made some pretty good 25-20 SS brass. Are you using the G&H brass?
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Old 08-22-2022, 10:49 PM
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Here's the QL info on a 22-3000 Lovell with 40 Sierra BK's. The listed max pressure in QL is only 40K.

Cartridge : .22/3000 Lovell
Bullet : .224, 40, Sierra Blitzking 1440
Useable Case Capaci: 17.012 grain H2O = 1.105 cm
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.120 inch = 53.85 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 40000 psi

Maximum filling of 106 %

USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !


Case Fill % _(Grains) _(FPS) _(Burn%) _(PSI)

Vihtavuori N125 105.7 15.4 3149 95.6 40000

Hodgdon H4227 101.4 14.6 3095 93.3 40000

Alliant Reloder-7 106.0 16.1 3054 88.4 38179

Accurate 1680 97.3 15.9 3035 84.5 40000

Hodgdon H4198 106.0 15.6 2975 82.0 39751

Vihtavuori N120 106.0 15.2 2971 92.8 33383

Hodgdon CFE BLK 104.2 17.3 2915 75.8 40000

Hodgdon H335 106.0 18.1 2893 75.5 34776

Alliant Reloder-10x 106.0 15.7 2833 81.5 28789

Vihtavuori N130 106.0 15.5 2740 80.7 28423

Hodgdon H322 106.0 16.1 2728 73.3 28937

Alliant Reloder-12 106.0 16.9 2724 74.4 29544

Ramshot X-Terminator 106.0 17.7 2701 67.0 30726

Hodgdon Benchmark 106.0 16.4 2692 71.0 29539

Accurate 2230 106.0 18.0 2690 67.2 29956

Vihtavuori N530 106.0 16.7 2681 67.6 28715

Accurate 2015 106.0 15.9 2680 77.0 25410

Winchester 748 106.0 17.9 2674 66.0 29290

Accurate 2460 106.0 17.9 2674 68.9 27260
Awesome. Thanks very much. Any chance you can do it with a 50gr bullet?
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Old 08-22-2022, 10:50 PM
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Tack---What rifle is your 22-3000?? Too bad Jamison still isn't in business. They made some pretty good 25-20 SS brass. Are you using the G&H brass?
I've got an Winchester 1885 in R2 Lovell, but I need some loads to start with from the regular Lovell for fireforming. I've been able to find some G&H primed brass that I'll be using. Only 50 rounds, but I don't think I'll be doing any serious volume shooting with this rifle.
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Old 08-22-2022, 11:13 PM
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A lot of the 1885 Varmint rigs were beautiful rifles. I hope yours a shooter.
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IMHO you dont want to go with 50 grainers, my R2 shoots wonderfully well with Vmax 40s or Calhoon 37 gr dbl hp over AA1680.

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