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Old 02-18-2016, 10:49 PM
Hal Hal is offline
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Default reflex moderator ?

What the advantage of reflex suppressors over the type that extends past the end of the barrel ?

I don't read about people using the reflex type suppressor in the United States.

Are the reflex suppressors the most popular style in the UK and outside the US.

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Old 02-18-2016, 10:58 PM
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Reflex allows for more baffles and a shorter oal. It also allows for a larger blast chamber.

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Old 02-18-2016, 11:07 PM
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Are they quieter ?

I can see where shorter would be better. Less leverage aginist the end of the barrel.

The reflex seems to be a Way stronger mounting system.

I just wouned why that style isn't used more in the U.S. ? Cost ?

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Old 02-19-2016, 12:34 AM
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Much quieter in most circumstances. The reason they're not popular is the fact your barrel has to be turned down, most of the time the connection point is back on the barrel requiring more work. It's better, but since we're the land of NOW, we opt for the screw onto the front style.


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Old 02-19-2016, 07:22 AM
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In the UK 22rf usually don't use reflex types. Most all centerfires do.
My deer rifle barrel measures .888 at the muzzle and Moderators are available to fit over that dia. Mine is made by A-Tec and is modular threaded sections, so, it can be made longer or shorter without tools.
In the back end is a bush made of some kind of plastic that's held in by a circlip. The bush has a couple thou? clearance on the barrel. Different size bushes allows you to use the mod. on different rifles. Assuming the hole through the mod is big enough.
These moderators can still safely be used even if they come loose by a couple threads, where one on the barrel end might cause a bullet to strike the baffles. (BTDT).
Easy on the ears, less recoil and usually smaller groups.
Definately spoils the clean lines of a nice rifle, but, I think the benefits outweigh that.
Mine cost £220 ($330 ish) and I could get one made to my own specs. for the same money.
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Ps. Apart from threading the muzzle, no other work is needed on the barrel.
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Old 02-19-2016, 10:42 AM
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True Reflex mufflers are welded iron and will rot/rust over time and they have a finite life. Ie no user serviceable parts inside.



http://jacksonrifles.com/zz-silencers/
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Old 02-19-2016, 11:16 AM
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True Reflex mufflers are welded iron and will rot/rust over time and they have a finite life. Ie no user serviceable parts inside.



http://jacksonrifles.com/zz-silencers/
Perhaps I should have used the word 'Generic' when describing my mod.
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Old 02-20-2016, 05:51 PM
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True Reflex mufflers are welded iron and will rot/rust over time and they have a finite life. Ie no user serviceable parts inside.



http://jacksonrifles.com/zz-silencers/
I'm not sure that's entirely true. I have seen reflex moderators constructed from stainless steel. I agree they have no user serviceable parts inside and erosion is still a potential problem, but they wont rot from the inside out like the original BR-Tuote moderators.

http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/...star-moderator
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:08 PM
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They work extremely well. The barrel is contoured so the moderator can slide down the barrel to its point of mounting .
Other moderators tried had the first shot way off from the rest of the grouping ,the reflex did not have this problem.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:17 PM
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I dont have any rifles that dont have suppressors on them!

Some are muzzle forward cans, others are over barrel models.

For bush hunting you definitely want an over barrel type as it offers the additional support with the read bushing (usually Derylin) so there is less chance of a knock overloading the muzzle thread.

My preferred suppressor for open county is the muzzle forward A-Tec from Norway as its so light. Only weights 220 grams so does not effect rifle balance.

http://www.a-tec.no/modular-silencers

We have a lot of suppressor manufacturers here in New Zealand and they are all working to get the weight down so the local DPT over barrel models are now down to 265g, and their muzzle forward ones close to 220g as well now.

http://www.dpt.co.nz/product.php?id_product=55

Anything over 300g on up to 3006 case capacity is considered heavy (400g for mags) and i'd only consider heavier (steel/SS) for high volume competition shooting where heat becomes an issue with alloy. Steel ones go 500-600g which just ruins the rifle balance.

Another very robust and light weight one is the Oceanic Defence which are sintered titanium powder 3D printed. They are very light and built to military spec so will take rapid fire, but twice the price of alloy ones.

https://www.oceania-defence.com/tita...ppressors.html
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