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Daryl RE: 17AH
Wow! That is incredible velocity for the 20 V-Max bullet. I have been shooting the loads by the guy who sold me the rifle. Using 1680 and 4227 with old custom bullets and WSR primers. It is only going 3350 fps. I now have another gun and will be reloading for that one with the 20 gr V-Max, 1680, and BR4 primers. Can't seem to locate VV120. Hopefully, it will result in higher velocity.
What powder were you using? Chuck |
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Ted- a couple or 3 years ago, I looked at a score sheet for 'some' BR match. There were 2, .222's being used in a sea of 6PPC's - with no .22 PPC's.
Both .222's finished in the top 5. Yes- I believe it can hold it's own. How do the BC's compare between the normal 68gr. match and 52/3 gr. match bullets - should be close, I'd think.
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Chuck - PM sent
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I am probably one of the few that thinks the 222 still can hold its own with the 6mmPPC and its variants. I own both in bench guns, but only the 222 variant allowed me a few precious zeros in competition. That said, I have placed higher in aggs with the PPC.
I think probably with a typical big benchrest match, say with 120 shooters, 118 will be shooting a 6mmPPC type of case. So on occasion, a 222 will take a big match, but the odds on the PPC with greater numbers on the line, will be a presence to be sure. If I was a betting man, and I am not; my money would in today's matches be on the PPC to take the wood home, just sheer numbers if nothing else; better odds of the conditions getting someone. Nice brass can be had for either, usually foreign made. Little things like case weighing(discussed on another thread) probably for the average Joe does not do him much good, but in a big competition where the top 20 are probably in the 1's in aggs, the little things end up adding up to edge. The 14 twist is the old time 50gr, old style, bullet twist of the day. I would try to learn about twist and some of the newer longer bearing surface bullets if so required, maybe a 13 or 12?. Hard for me to go wrong with a 14 twist, 52 berger bullet, 205m, and 4198. The 222 is milder in noise to me, feeds easily in most repeaters. yeah, I like the 222............still do, even after all these years with PPC in the closet. Nothing wrong with the 6mmPPC at all, but I would counsel to begin with a rifle kinda set up for it to begin with; just my opinion. |
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The 222 Rem is one of the all-time great cartridges, and at one time held most of the benchrest records. It'd be a shame to re-barrel that CZ. After all that expense and hassle you've still got a CZ 527. Converting to some ostensibly more accurate cartridge will yield dubious returns on investment. Only if I discovered that particular barrel didn't shoot well at all would I consider it.
If you want a PPC or the like, set up a new rifle based on a benchrest action, or buy a good used benchrest gun, and there you have it. |
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222 rem was one of the most boring cartridge/rifle combo's i ever owned. it was a 222 40x br, all it did was shoot one hole slightly larger than .224
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Given what I have gotten in advice from this forum....and considering what materials i have on hand, the rifle will remain a 222. I believe I will still rebarrel it, though. 1:14 or 1:13...maybe even quicker if I decided to run the 53gr vmax's...heavier contour...and stainless. should be good to go then. |
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I'm using a 12 twist Shilen on mine and love it. To each his own, but if I were going to do it all over, I'd do the same.
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Concur, and the same goes for a 222. Hard to beat that combo.
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This group is from a Pac-Nor super match barrel Rem 700 (pre-fit barrel) .17 Remington using 20gr Vmax at 100metres. My only regret is its a 1:10 twist but I would have no hesitation buying another Pac-Nor barrel.
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