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Old 03-20-2017, 04:39 PM
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:39 PM
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Man, Groc, that is a Great Quote!

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Old 03-20-2017, 05:52 PM
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You didn't mention the cartridge but I will take a SWAG and say it was a 30-30. I don't see H322 as being one of my first choices.
With powders hard to come by,I have seen where a bunch of folks are pressing powders into use that would not normally be done. I don't do it and will not do it,period.
IMHO powder is cheap, guns are expensive. Along with doctors bills.

I have pushed a few wildcats, but most are on their own in that realm.

I am with the thoughts of moving up to a larger case if more speed is needed. You can load a 300WM down about as much as you want. But you can't make a 308 out of a 30-30.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:21 PM
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Close.... it was a 35 Remington. He still hasn't responded to the post. Some of those guys over there really let him have it. I think he got the message and I hope he loads smart from now on.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:27 PM
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:37 PM
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i, unfortunately, used to be one of them guys. i was young and dumb and i figured i could get more fps if i add more powder. i also figured that my cartridge will crack before the gun. i was a "pure genius" because i figured out all that i and reloading knows. i would take my old '06 with 150gr hornsierspeer and start with maximum load of xyz powder. i would then go over .5gr of powder then i'll go over that .5 gr another .5gr(10gr, 10.5gr, 11gr, 11.5gr and so on)until the cartridge case cracked. then i'll take it down another .5gr and thats what i can use. i was a real !@#$%^. fortunately for me, i never blew up a gun.

nowadays i cringe at what i was doing. out of the guns i own, only my 270win does a max load imr4320 and my 20 vartarg does a max load? of rel7. i use cast boolits (30cal and up) and i find that the powder goes about in the middle(fps), not in the maximum powder range.

ewwww, just thinking about how bad it could be....eewww
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:57 AM
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Are all of you fellows telling me and the rest of the world you have never safely loaded any round over book maximum? SX
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:09 PM
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Are all of you fellows telling me and the rest of the world you have never safely loaded any round over book maximum? SX
SX. I made my comments, from some experience and also from what I read from the powder makers and reloading books, etc.
No have I SAFELY loaded over max, I also have to say Yes and No. I did have a couple loads, back when I started loading ( 1954) that were over max and I thought were good too go. But after a while, due to temp or whatever, started showing pressure signs, pierced primers and such, so there fore found that they were not safe. So from that time on, I never push the max limits set by the reloading books. I go for accuracy first and foremost, then check FPS just too see where my loads are holding. Just my way, others are certainly free too do as they wish. Bill K
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:54 PM
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SX. I made my comments, from some experience and also from what I read from the powder makers and reloading books, etc.
No have I SAFELY loaded over max, I also have to say Yes and No. I did have a couple loads, back when I started loading ( 1954) that were over max and I thought were good too go. But after a while, due to temp or whatever, started showing pressure signs, pierced primers and such, so there fore found that they were not safe. So from that time on, I never push the max limits set by the reloading books. I go for accuracy first and foremost, then check FPS just too see where my loads are holding. Just my way, others are certainly free too do as they wish. Bill K
What Bill K said, plus when I think about setting off a 40 to 60 thousand psi poop storm in front of my face I tend to lean toward caution.

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Old 03-23-2017, 02:15 AM
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Are all of you fellows telling me and the rest of the world you have never safely loaded any round over book maximum? SX
I've been hand loading on my own since 1969 and I can say that I "have never safely loaded any round over book maximum" because I've never tried to do it.

Hitting the top of a stand of hair on a critter at 200 yards with a possibly unsafe load versus hitting the bottom of that same strand of hair at 200 yards never seemed to me like being a smart thing to do. But I'm a wuss..............

Inside that same period of time I've seen several rifles owned by other people either actually come apart or I've seen the remnants of rifles that came apart for obvious reasons, and none of them was a pretty picture. And to a man, the owners all swore that they never saw any "obvious signs of pressure" prior to their rifle going boom instead of bang........ But each of them did hint or state that the load was "a bit hot" for the cartridge involved.

What useful purpose does being macho with a reloading scale accomplish?

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