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Old 07-18-2018, 01:51 PM
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.20AH for me as well. Simple bushing change in my Wilson dies.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:51 PM
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20 ah as the hh brass is rubbish
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:03 PM
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It would be hard to argue with visitor1 on his assessment of a lot of the 17HH brass.

When 17 HH brass was almost non-existent and what was available was sketchy at best, I made some brass from 22 Hornet by necking down the brass and using a bit of Unique and a plug of paper towel to form some in my garage. It is still excellent 17 HH brass.

Kenny Ponds (sicero) made me a neck down die just because he wanted to see if he could do it. His resulting neck-down die worked great even though I also made some from a 17HH FL die. I sure miss sicero for a lot of reasons, but I have this die that triggers some good memories to make me smile when I use it.............

So I guess I'm in the 20 AH klan. Does already owning one matter in the selection process?

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Old 07-19-2018, 03:36 AM
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One more vote for the .20 Ackley Hornet.
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Screaminweasil View Post
19 calhoon hornet
Agreed. Little reason to reinvent the wheel.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:59 PM
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The 19 is certainly awesome and has proven to stay around despite the lack of available sources. And if anything ever did happen it surecseems easy enough to make a 19 caliber bullet from a 204. Matter of fact, I’ve alwayd said that the difference between a 19 and a 20 is so small that I question is there really a difference between the two.

I’m not one that needs the factory brass so that woukdnt even normally weigh into my thinking.

And yes already having one is great because you already have half of the experience owning both is even better

What started all of this is, unfortunately I have been starting to thin the herd. It’s a long story but basically I am getting rid of what I like the most and letting my CCMs go was one of the tuffest things I’ve done. What I like the most is wildcats... making my own brass... having something that is not off the shelf, load and shoot.

Decided I need to get ready to check out from here someday and maybe go visit Kenny and Rem to name just a couple

Since I’m not going to live forever and my health is so that someday I’m probably going to wish I thst I had took the time to clean up some of my messes when I was younger and felt better (lol I’m already thinking that)

So anyhow, out with the good stuff... going to be selling a few 17 AHs and dies... Then replacing them with one (and I do mean only one) factory 17 HH to keep to still feed the addiction a little bit lol.

17 WSM taking the place of my 17 CCM (did I really say that).

The main thing is so the day I die, I’m not leaving a mess for my wife and mostly kids to wonder what barrel and dies go with what. (Wife might just haul it all to a dumpster lol)

So as I’m making these plans it made me wonder and I thought it would be interesting to see what type of small caliber following is actually out there. The few true small caliber pioneers who are left that did this stuff when there was no cleaning rods and maybe limited bullets, barrels and so on who have been my inspiration... well... I think you’re as about as rare today as you was back then lol

So even though a 20 AH is where my heart is I’m probably going to be that off the shelf guy from here on out. Probably go more quality than quantity though.

Meanwhile as I sell off stuff I just keep finding out how most small caliber shooters are some of the best!
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:23 PM
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I am in a similar situation. I am 62 yo. My wife and I have no children, and no family we are close to that I can leave all my gun stuff to. We recently downsized and sold our 477 acre farm because neither of us wanted to leave the other with the burden of selling it alone.
Although I enjoy reloading, the older I get, the more I like shooting factory available rounds. I finally made it out West and would like to go PD hunting once before I die. If I don't get into it, I will start selling off my guns (35 or so, mostly small caliber with a few shotguns and handguns), night vision, silencers, and reloading equipment and supplies.
My wife said to me recently: "How can I get rid of all this stuff if you die?" "I consider it a huge burden."
I know now what I have to do.
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:30 PM
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I have three sons and two daughters that like guns (so far, my youngest might be more like her mother). Only one son has purchased his own stuff and what he has is all pretty nice (unlike me). And none of it is a wildcat. He says dad I need to come learn what you know about reloading. But there isn’t enough time for him to come home and load (I think his job, GF and mother keep him occupied).
And it’s too bad... Right now he likes to shoot and I’d rather be loading or making brass. As much as I enjoy shooting being bent over a gun very long isn’t as fun (as easy) as it use to be. Then seeing through these glasses is another story lol maybe this winter?

I’m hoping to get one more good PD hunt in also. Always said I’m going to shoot one mule deer and one antelope before I die but I quit saying that because I’m not sure it’s worth it at this point (afraid of the work that happens after you pull the trigger lol)


I’m like you, know what I have to do but until recently I just kept putting it off.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:21 PM
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Had both 19 hornet and 19 badger loved them both, hornet has moved badger will stay with me and then go to my son. Its a great little cartridge, love James no neck turn & 30* shoulder just my opinion I reckon its way better than the Garin line for simplicity and its super accurate

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Old 07-20-2018, 01:35 AM
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I have a Browning micro medallion Gre Tan rifles converted to .19 Calhoon and a James Calhoon .19 Badger on a CZ action, but have fired each only 15-20 times. I hope to change that if I go PD hunting next year. Problem is, I have so many different small caliber guns, I don’t know which to take.
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