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03-18-2008, 02:54 AM
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ot 6.5 grendel or 25 grendel on cz 527
you guys here know more about cz 527's than I do. I am looking to make a gun for a girl or kid to hunt deer with. I like the 25's and the 527 would make a great light platform. I have heard of them putting the wssm in ar-15's and then I found the 6.5 grendel. so my ? is would the mag function in this cartrage and is there a 25 version. what twist would be good and just any info on the subject.
thanks shawn 
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#2
03-18-2008, 03:00 AM
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Some reading:
http://www.65grendel.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-80 http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammun...emington_0303/ Some looking/buying http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=93155038 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=94928492 Bruce Last edited by bcp; 03-18-2008 at 03:02 AM.
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#3
03-18-2008, 05:06 AM
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Hey Shawn nice to see again
I did the 6.5 version to make a lightweight deer rifle in the CZ 527.
The original stock was as handsome as a stump so I decided to give it the biggest loser treatment. First step to cut weight was hollowing the butt of the stock, then all checkering was removed and I slimmed the wrist area. I also took an additional ¼” of wood all the way around starting at the wrist all the way to the forend. This gave it the trim Mannlicher-Schönauer appearance which I finished off with a small schnabel forend. I bobbed the magazine to 3 rounds and I trimmed the trigger guard in the mill, like Roy B does, so all fits flush to the bottom of the stock. The CZ scope ring got skeletonized on the inside. I chambered a 1 in 9" medium sporter weight barrel and cut it to 21”, mounted a 2x-7x Leopold and the entire outfit comes in right at 6 ¼ lbs with sling and shells. For my deer hunting the Grendel likes the Nosler 120gr BT’s running around 2700 fps. It seems to be more that enough for these big corn fed whitetails here in Nebraska. I took a quite shine to this handy little package; so much so that I made a 20PPC barrel to switch out for coyote calling in the winter months. Shawn a 25 Grendel maybe with a 1 in 9" or 10" should spin the 100's ( not sure you can move the 120's fast enough with that small of a boiler room) and come close to the ole 250 savage, which should be just the ticket you’re after. Enjoy Stephen Last edited by Stephen Grant; 03-18-2008 at 05:13 AM.
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03-18-2008, 11:33 AM
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Keep this up and,,,,
I make start gathering 'loose parts' in the garage.
Stock: NICE grain taken off a CZ 527 .221FB that was made into a 17M4 and put into the Varmint Kevlar stock for stability between Georgia's and Montana's differing humidity [no warp]. The new walnut CZ stock is sitting on top of my safe,,,waiting for a project. Barrel: I have a .250 Savage AI barrel that is a super accurate Shilen. Has maybe 75 rounds through it, several 3/8" groups with 100 Nosler BTs. Chamber is too large for my preferance [used an old solid pilot reamer] and would do well as a PPC/7.62x39 creation. Left it 24" long so plenty of metal left for cutting away. Plenty of .25 bullets around, even a batch of Starkes for bench target fun. I have just recently bought a CZ 7.62x39 carbine and although a .308"x39 reamer has been ordered, it can easily be a "switch barrel" rig. If one has the correct wrenchs, any rifle is a "switch barrel" candidate.  ....maybe just not 'in the field'.I would love to rebuild my .250SAI with a minimum spec reamer so this Shilen would be 'offered up' for a new rifle. Just following along with the post. "Have Lathe, Will Destroy".  ...or how about: "Have Lathe, Chip Happens"
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#5
03-18-2008, 05:09 PM
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Why not buy a 7.62 X 39 CZ carbine and let the kids hunt with it? With handloads it isn't far behind the 30-30 and possibly well ahead of some of the handguns they hunt deer with. It don't take a big gun to kill deer. I have shot a lot of deer in my time and a grand total of one over 100yd. We can't use a centerfire in Ohio. Kenny
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#6
03-18-2008, 05:31 PM
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I gave a trio of CZ 527s in 7.62x39. My first shot so well, that I couldn't bring myself to spin the barrel off. I have a Walther 6.5mm barrel and a reamer, waiting for rifle #2, and haven't decided what to do with rifle #3 (yet). If you need to borrow a reamer, let me know.
RL-7 is the powder for the 7.62x39mm from my perspective, offering both accuaracy and speed. 26.7 RL-7 150 gr.Sierra .311" R-P Case 7 1/2 Primer 2208 fps 28.0 RL-7 130 gr.Norma SP .310" R-P Case 7 1/2 Primer 2341 fps John in Oregon
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#7
03-19-2008, 12:18 AM
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Shawn
Have you taken a look at the 6.8 SPC Rem.? I built one on an AR frame to deer hunt with because my state required at least 24 cal. to shoot deer with at the time and I wanted to hunt with an AR. Also made a great coyote gun. I've been impressed with it and factory brass is available from Remington. With the .277 cal. bullets in 110-130 grains it makes a good little deer/preditor round. Martin Last edited by NimrodMar10; 03-19-2008 at 01:59 AM.
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#8
03-19-2008, 01:49 AM
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that's a problem, too..
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Odd thing,,my LONGEST deer kill with a rifle in the STANDING position was because the 'straw grass' was too high to even kneel on one knee. 135 yards and 'pop' in the ribs,,she ran 25 yards. And,,,,as much as I don't like admitting it,,,it was a 4X scoped,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SKS,,,,,Chinese manufacture.  It would group under 1.5" at 100 yards. Go figure.
Last edited by Alan in GA; 03-19-2008 at 02:11 AM.
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